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GERMAN FAMILIES of
OCEAN SPRINGS
BOES FAMILY
Charles Peter Boes (1859-1928) and Sarah Lahr (1859-1936), his
spouse and the daughter of Godfrey and Elizabeth Lahr, were born in
New York, probably Westchester County, of Germany parents. They
married in New York circa 1881. The Boes family arrived in Ocean
Springs circa 1893, probably from New Orleans where circa 1889, they
may have relocated to from New York. At Ocean Springs, Mr. Boes made
his livelihood as a railroad carpenter and later sold soft drinks and
tobacco products. Their children were: Charles P. Boes Jr. (1884-1968)
married Leola ? and Mary Posmedi; Frederick Boes (1886-1935) married
Helene Gertrud Bucholz; Marguerite L. Boes (1889-1965) married Dudley
J. McEvoy; John Morris Boes (1891-1940); Lena Boes (1894-1981) married
Robert McGee; Annie Boes (1897-1985) married Jerry Monoghan; Emma Boes
(1899-1985) married Charles Catanese; and Joseph Boes
(1902-1910+). (1910 Federal Census-Jackson County, Ms., T624R744, pt.
1, p. 7A and Patricia Boes-Parenteau, June 17, 2003)
Boes home
In April 1905, Charles P. Boes acquired a portion of Lot 12-Block
37 of the 1854 Culmseig Map of Ocean Springs from Dr. O.L. Bailey
(1870-1938). Here on the northwest corner of Calhoun and VanCleave,
the Boes family resided until their departure for New Orleans
sometimes before February 1919. They were residents of New Orleans,
when their home on Calhoun was acquired by Noah A. Bellman (1889-1941)
and spouse, Williamina Catchot Bellman (1898-1990), in February 1919,
for $500. The old Boes cottage is known today as the Bellman House and
situated at 1401 Calhoun. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 29, p. 536 and Bk.
46, pp. 359-360)
In 1910, Mr. Boes paid a total of $6.30 state and county tax on his
Ocean Springs lot and improvements. Two dollars of this amount was
poll tax. (JXCO, Ms. Chancery Court 1910 Tax Receipt No. 3754)
By 1915, Charles P. Boes was the proprietor of a small
confectionary in the former Paragon Saloon owned by George E. Arndt
(1857-1945), himself a first generation German-American. At this time,
the Paragon Saloon had been moved just north of its former site on the
southwest corner of Washington Avenue and Robinson. This relocation
was necessary when in 1913, the Farmers and Merchants Bank Building
was erected here. This fine edifice is extant and utilized today as a
commercial rental by its proprietors, William and Wynn Seeman, former
residents of Gulf Hills.
In early July 1915, Mr. Boes advertised his business in The
Ocean Springs News follows:
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Carbonated Drinks, Cigars, Tobacco, Etc.
Pop, Ginger Ale, Grape juice, Chewing Gum,
Near Beer Cigarettes.
Located in the Paragon building, Ocean Springs,
Miss.
The Ocean Springs News, July 8, 1915, p. 4
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Greenwood Cemetery
The following members of the Boes family lie in eternal rest in
their family burial plot at the Greenwood Cemetery in New Orleans:
Charles Peter Boes, Sarah Lahr Boes, John Morris Boes, Lena Boes
McGee, and Marguerite Boes McEvoy.
The following information is known about two of the Boes children:
Charles P. Boes Jr.
Circa 1904, Charles Peter Boes Jr. (1884-1968) was born in
Westchester County, New York. He married Leola ? Boes (1878-1910+), a
native of Mississippi. They lived in East Slidell, St. Tammany Parish,
Louisiana. Mr. Boes was employed in the Slidell area as a millwright
for a lumber company. They had had a child which did not
survive. (1910-Federal Census, St. Tammany, Parish, Louisiana,
T624R531, pt. 3, p. 218B)
During WW I, Charles P Boes Jr. served in the US Navy. In 1920, he
was stationed in Constantinople, Turkey aboard the USS Scorpion.
Charles P. Boes Jr. later married Mary Posmedi. They were the parents
of three sons: Charles Peter Boes III, John Boes, and George Boes.
They family resided at Vallejo, California for about forty years. He
expired here on May 1,1968. (Patricia Boes-Parenteau, June 17, 2003)
Frederick Boes
Frederick Boes (1886-1935) was born in Westchester County, New
York. In May 1912, he married Helene Gertrud Bucholz of Milwaukee,
Wisconsin in the Methodist Church at Ocean Springs with the Reverend
Lowndes A. Darsey (1849-1929) in attendance. (JXCO, Ms. MRB 9, p. 413)
They were the parents of six children: Meta Eve Boes (1914-1983);
Fred Boes Jr. (b. 1917); Immanual H. Boes (1920-1983); Marguerite Boes
(1922-1991); Edward K. Boes (1925-1999); and Richard Boes (1926-1991).
Frederick and Helene B. Boes left Ocean Springs circa 1917, for San
Francisco. Meta Eve was born in Biloxi while the remainder of the Boes
children experienced their nativity in the Golden State. Frederick
Boes made his livelihood working in a hospital. He expired at San
Francisco on February 11, 1935 from tuberculosis. (Patricia Boes-Parenteau,
June 17, 2003)
Many thousand thanks to Patricia Boes-Parenteau of Vacaville,
California for her sharing her knowledge of her Boes family with us.
REFERENCES:
The Ocean Springs News, "C.P. Boes <advertisement>",
July 8, 1915.
Personal Communication:
Patricia Boes-Parenteau-Vacaville, California, June 17, 2003.
THE DOMNING FAMILY
Emile Domning (1850-1918), the progenitor of the Domning family of
Ocean Springs, was born in Germany on August 1, 1850. He immigrated to
America in 1869 and in October 1878, became an American citizen at New
Orleans. Domning served in the US Navy enlisting in 1873. In September
1880, he married Christina E. Sieckman (1848-1933), a native of
Bielefeld, Germany, and the widow of John Wendel (1848-1874), in the
Lutheran church in New Orleans. Christina was the daughter of Henry
Conrad Sieckman and Anna Marie Ruter. In September 1867, she with two
siblings, Johanna F. Sieckman who would marry Henry Wendel, and
Christina Augusta Sieckman (d. 1875), immigrated to America settling
with Ivan Sieckman, an uncle, residing at New Orleans. (The History
of JXCO, Ms., 1989, p. 194),

Emile Domning (1850-1918)
In 1890, Emile Domning and family relocated from New Orleans to
Ocean Springs. Here he made his livelihood as a shoemaker until his
demise in November 1918. At Ocean Springs, Mr. Domning was active in
the civic and social aspects of the community. He served Ocean Springs
as marshal (sic), constable, and deputy sheriff. (The Jackson County
Times, November 9, 1918, p. 5)
Acting Marshall
In March 1904, the Marshal elect of Ocean Springs resigned his
post and Emile Domning acted as Marshal until a special election was
held. During his short tenure as lawman of Ocean Springs, Mr. Domning
met with a most embarrassing incident, which prevented him from
seeking the office permanently. A rowdy group of young men were
imbibing alcohol in the vicinity of the L&N Depot. Domning arrested
one of the men and escorted him to the local calaboose with his mates
in tow. Reaching the jail, Domning opened the door and entered the
cell before his prisoner. Bam! Click! The jail door was slammed and
sealed by the unruly crowd and left Marshal Domning as the
incarceratee!! His prisoner and amigos escaped. Red-faced and angry,
Emile Domning was later able to free himself. (The Progress, April
30, 1904, p. 4)
Domning children:
Emile Domning and Christina Sieckman Domning were the parents of
four children who were all natives of New Orleans: Augusta Domning
Fayard (1881-1946), Benjamine F. Domning (1882-1915), Caroline M.
Domning Seymour (1886-1969), and Amelia F. Domning Ryan (1889-1954).

Christina E. Sieckman Wendel
Domning (1848-1933)
Bowen Avenue-a Domning neighborhood
It was several years after settling in Ocean Springs, that
cobbler, Emile Domning, and spouse began to acquire land. In August
1892, Christina S. Domning acquired for $275, their homestead tract at
present day 1314 Bowen Avenue. Situated on the south side of Bowen, it
was described as Lot 5-Block 32 and purchased from Martha E. Ryan,
John B. Ryan (1856-1920) and Ralph C. Bellman (1856-1899). A quitclaim
deed was issued to the Domnings on this parcel by Samuel H. Dickin in
July 1894. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk.14, p. 28 and Bk. 15, p. 588)
By July 1918, several months before his demise in November 1918,
Emile Domning possessed five houses on Bowen Avenue between Russell
Avenue and General Pershing described as being in parts of Lot 3; all
of Lot 4; Lot 7; and Lot 12 all in Block 32 of the 1854 Culmseig Map
of Ocean Springs, Mississippi. He declared in his last will and
testament that Christina, his spouse of thirty-eight years, would
inherit his real property. (JXCO, Ms. Chancery Court Cause No.
4433-April 1924)
In April 1924, Christina S. Domning conveyed to her daughter,
Amelia D. Ryan, "my homestead". Amelia had married Fredrick J. Ryan
(1886-1969) in January 1911. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 53, pp. 624-625)
In 1934, on the south side of Bowen Avenue in the front of their
house Fred J. Ryan and Henry J. Endt (1910-1989) opened a neighborhood
bar on Bowen Avenue. It was called the F & H Bar for their first
names, Fred and Henry. This establishment soon evolved into a seafood
restaurant and dancehall, which in June 1941 gained national notoriety
when Mr. and Mrs. Ryan hosted William Meyers Colmer (1890-1980),
Mississippi’s US Representative and Henry A. Wallace (1888-1965),
vice-president of the United States. Their entourage included several
leading Senators and Representatives from North Carolina, Kentucky,
Alabama, Rhode Island, Virginia, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. (The
Jackson County Times, May 5, 1934 and The Jackson County Times,
June 8, 1941, p. 4)
The Fred Ryan home and businesses were demolished in the 1960s by
their daughter, Esther Ryan Lyons Bradford (1919-1973), to build a new
home. Her son, Fred R. Bradford, resides here today.
Emile Domning dies
Emile Domning expired at his Bowen Avenue residence on November 1,
1918, after an illness of several months. His corporal remains were
interred in the Evergreen Cemetery. In early November 1918, The
Jackson County Times eulogized him as follows:
The passing of E. Domning removes from our midst another of the old
guard, who for years was prominently identified with Ocean Springs
Fire Company No. 1. He was one of the few remaining veterans who in
former years built up the fire company and worked year in and year out
to keep the organization in a flourishing condition. He served many
years as secretary of the company and was a faithful officer. (Ibid.,
November 9, 1918, p. 5)
Mrs. Domning passes
In early August 1933, Christina S. Domning passed on in her Bowen
Avenue residence. Her funeral services were held at St. John’s
Episcopal Church prior to internment in Evergreen Cemetery. Mrs.
Domning was carried to her grave by six grandsons: Oscar Seymour and
Bennie Seymour, Henry and Albert Endt, Emile Domning, and Ambrose
Fayard. (The Daily Herald, August 5, 1933, p. 2)
A brief history of the children of Emile Doming and Christina
Sieckman Domning follows:
Augusta C. Domning
Augusta Christina Doming (1881-1946) was born at New Orleans on August
10, 1881. She married Leonard J. Fayard Jr. (1881-1958), the son of
Leonard Fayard (1847-1923) and Martha Jane Westbrook, (1851-1918),
the daughter of John Westbrook (d. ca 1870) and Caroline Mathieu
(1830-1895). Their children were: Ambrose Roch Fayard (1906-1998)
married Lilly Mae VanCourt (1911-1998); Christine Fayard (b. ca 1910)
married Clarence Hamilton (1902-1992); Lucille Fayard (b. ca 1916
married Oscar Heffner (b. 1923); and Beryl Fayard (1919-1972) married
Willard J. Odenbeck (1918-1995) and Bernell S. Seymour (1922-1991).
The Fayard home-1302 Bowen Avenue
In March 1916, Emile Domning conveyed a part of Lot 3-Block 32 to his
daughter, Augusta D. Fayard. This parcel on the southeast corner of
Bowen Avenue and Russell had seventy-five feet fronting on Bowen
Avenue and was one hundred fifty feet deep on Russell. The
consideration was $75. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 42, p. 263)
Prior to residing here, the Fayards had lived on Bowen Avenue on
Lot 7-Block 32. She acquired this parcel from her mother in June 1905,
and sold it to her father in March 1916, for $75. Lot 7 was acquired
by Johanna W. Endt (1873-1931) in April 1924, from her mother, Mrs.
Emile Domning. The Endt-Hire cottage is situated at present day 1410
Bowen and owned by Mrs. Alice "Deets" Hire (b. 1921). (JXCO, Ms. Land
Deed Bk. 30, p. 53, Bk. 42, p. 380, and Bk. 53, p. 624)
Johanna W. Endt (1873-1931) was the daughter of John Wendel
(1848-1874) and Chrisitine Sieckman Wendel Domning (1848-1933). She
married Anthony J. Endt (1870-1948) in October 1896 at St.
Alphonsus. (Lepre, 1991, p. 103)
In June 1960, after the deaths of Augusta D. Fayard and her spouse,
Leonard J. Fayard Jr. in December 1946 and April 1958 respectively,
three of their heirs conveyed the Fayard-Latch cottage to Bernell S.
Seymour (1922-1991) and Beryl F. Odenbeck Seymour (1919-1972), a
sibling and heir. After the death of Mr. Seymour in April 1991, his
daughter, Suzanne Seymour Andrews of Titusville, Florida sold the old
Fayard home place to Rickey L. Latch in late 1991. (JXCO, Ms. Chancery
Court Cause No. P-3197-1991 and JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 985, p. 951
and Bk. 986, p. 130).
Benjamine Frederick Domning
Benjamine F. "Ben" Domning (1882-1915) was born at New Orleans in
1882. Circa 1904, he married Alphonsine Beaugez (1882-1965), the
daughter of Alphonse Beaugez (1860-1942) and Caroline Seymour
(1858-1933), in the St. Alphonsus Catholic Church at Ocean Springs.
Their children were: Frederick Emile "Rip" Domning (b. 1907) married
Maud M. Mugnier (1905-1998); Carrie Domning (1908-2000) who became
Sister Mary Constance of the Pallotine Sisters, a Roman Catholic Holy
Order; Bernard A. Domning (1912-1991) married Rita McGinnes (b. 1914);
and Alice Domning Burnham (b. 1913) married Lawrence V. Burnham
(1910-1988). Mr. Domning made his livelihood with the L&N
Railroad. (Daryl P. Domning and Alice D. Burnham, July 7-8, 2003)
Domning cottage on Porter
It would appear that Ben and Alphonsine B. Domning initially made
their home at Ocean Springs. They acquired Lot 12-Block 32 in early
December 1904, from W.C. Parragin. This parcel fronted on East Porter
near VanCleave and was due south of his parents’ home, which was
situated at present day 1314 Bowen Avenue. Circa 1912, Ben was
transferred to Mobile by the L&N. In December 1912, he sold his Porter
Avenue real estate to his father. Two of the Domning children, Bernard
and Alice, were born in Mobile. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 29, pp.
250-251 and Bk. 38, pp. 617-618 and Alice Domning Burnham, July 8,
2003)
Domning Cottage on VanCleave
Also in December 1912, Ben Domning acquired Lot 13-Block 33 (Culmseig
Map-1854) on the east side of VanCleave Avenue from his father, Emile
Domning. This lot had 100 feet on VanCleave and ran east for 190 feet.
Here in 1913, he had a home erected which is extant at present day 504
VanCleave. Mr. Emile Domning had acquired Lot 13-Block 33 from Ellen
L. Rapp in January 1912. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 37, p. 574)
Ben Domnings untimely demise
B.F. Domning was employed as a brakeman for the L&N Railroad in
its New Orleans-Mobile Division. On March 18, 1915, while at work, he
apparently fell from freight train No. 72 at Lake Catherine, which is
situated about thirty miles east of New Orleans. B.F. Domning’s
presence was missed when the fast freight reached Long Beach,
Mississippi. His badly mangled corpse was found on the railroad tracks
at Lake Catherine by the crew L&N train No. 88, which had embarked the
Crescent City shortly after train No. 72. Mr. Domning’s corporal
remains were brought to his parents’ home on Bowen Avenue before
internment in the Evergreen Cemetery on Old Fort Bayou. He had been
associated with several fraternal organizations: Woodmen of the World,
Moose, and Firemen. (The Daily Herald, March 19, 1915, p. 1 and The
Jackson County Times, March 25, 1915, p. 1)
On December 5, 1915, the Woodmen of the World unveiled a monument
to B.F. Domning in the Evergreen Cemetery. Sixty-five members from
Maple Camp No. 5 came from Mobile Several hundred people from Ocean
Springs attended the ceremony. (The Ocean Springs News, December 9,
1915, p. 1)
Domning family members in Ocean Springs always believed that B.F.
Domning was pushed from his L&N freight train by a hobo who was riding
the rails to Mobile. (Clarence Hamilton Jr., June 25, 2003)
Settlement
In November 1915, the L&N Railroad paid the widow, Alphonsine B.
Domning, and her four minor children $500 for the accidental death of
her late husband. Contemporaneously, she was named legal guardian of
her four children by the Chancery Court of Jackson County,
Mississippi. (Jackson County, Ms. Chancery Court Cause No.
3475-November 1915)
Additional railroad accidents and deaths
Shortly after the demise of B.F. Domning, The Ocean Springs
News reminded its readership that in addition to Mr. Domning, five
other young men from Ocean Springs were seriously injured or killed in
accidents on the L&N line. Among them were: Bennie Seymour, Elliot
Westbrook, George Richards, Willie Westbrook, and Tom Eglin. (The
Ocean Springs News, March 25, 1915, p. 2)
A brief review of these railroad incidents follows:
Benjamin Seymour
Benjamin "Benny" Benny Seymour (1882-1904), son of Narcisse
Seymour (1849-1931) and Caroline V. Krohn (1847-1895), lost both legs
below the knee at Bay St. Louis on December 17, 1904. Seymour was a
flagman for the L&N Railroad. He died at Charity Hospital in New
Orleans on December 18, 1904. Narcisse Seymour sued the L&N Railroad
for $20,000 in a wrongful death suit and was awarded $5000 in damages
by a jury in 1908. Judge Niles ordered the case retried and Seymour
lost the suit in Federal court at Biloxi on February 16, 1909. (The
Progress, December 24, 1904, p. 4 and The Ocean Springs News,
February 20, 1909)
Elliot Westbrook
Elliot Westbrook (1883-1927), called Skinny, was the son of Lucian
Westbrook (1842-1896) and Cecelia Kendall (1848-1913). Elliot was
employed by the L&N at Mobile as a switchman. On October 24, 1910, he
fell while attempting to make a switch of some cars in the L&N rail
yard at Mobile. A car rolled over his right arm severing it near the
shoulder. Westbrook resided at 459 Eslava Street, with his spouse. (The
Ocean Springs News, October 29, 1910, p. 1)
George Richards
George Richards was employed by the L&N at Mobile. He worked as a
switchman. On October 21, 1910, the bulkheads of two rail cars crushed
his foot. The foot was amputated above the ankle by Dr. S.S. Peterson
on October 25, 1910, when it did not heal properly. (The Ocean
Springs News, October 29, 1910, p. 1)
William J. Westbrook
William J. "Willie" Westbrook (1886-1913) was killed in a railroad
accident at Grand Bay, Alabama on February 23, 1913. While attempting
to catch the caboose of a freight train, he lost his footing and fell
beneath the rolling wheels of a freight car. Westbrook was the L&N
station agent at the time of his demise. Willie Westbrook was the son
of Edward M. Westbrook (1858-1913) and Harriet "Hattie" Clark
(1857-1927). He probably had three children born in Alabama: W.J.
Westbrook, Jr., Leroy Westbrook (b. 1908- pre 1980) and Lillian
Westbrook (b. 1911). The two younger children lived at Ocean Springs
with their grandmother, Hattie Westbrook, in 1920. (The Daily Herald,
February 24, 1913, p. 1)
Thomas A. Eglin
Thomas A. Eglin (1887-1914) was the son of Albert M. Eglin
(1852-1891) and Amelia S. Krohn (1855-1916). He was a flagman on L&N
Train No. 38, better known as the New York Limited. Tom Eglin killed
by bandits who robbed the conductor and baggage man for less than $20
on July 17, 1914. The armed robbery took place on the eastern
outskirts of New Orleans. Eglin’s corporal remains were interred in
the Bellande Cemetery at Ocean Springs. (The Ocean Springs News,
July 18, 1914, p. 1)
Move to Mobile
In July 1925, Alphonsine B. Domning and her family relocated to
Mobile, when her son, F. Emile "Rip" Domning (b. 1907), took a
position with the L&N Railroad. The Domnings settled at 258 Jackson
Street near Conception. In 1933, Carrie Domning joined the Pallotine
Sisters at their convent in Huntington, West Virginia. The order had
come from Germany in 1912, and in 1924, founded a hospital, which
today is the St. Mary’s Medical Center, the 13th largest
private employer in West Virginia. Bernard A. Domning became an
electrician and married Rita McGinnes at Mobile circa 1935 and Alice
Domning married Lawrence V. Burnham in August 1934, also at
Mobile. (Alice D. Burnham, July 8, 2003)
Ocean Springs rentals
Alphonsine Domning maintained her properties on VanCleave while
residing in Alabama. She rented the Domning cottage at 504 VanCleave
until her demise in March 1965. Mrs. Domning’s corporal remains were
interred in the Evergreen Cemetery.
In April 1933, during the Great Depression, Mrs. Domning lost her
Ocean Springs home and lot for taxes to the State of Mississippi. She
redeemed her property in February 1936, by paying $51.70 to the Land
Commissioner of the State. A forfeited tax land patent was issued to
her in September 1940 to clear the title. (St. Tax Land Sale Bk. 3, p.
142 and JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 77, p. 157)
In January 1974, Alphonsine B. Domning’s heirs, Emile,
Carrie-Sister Mary Constance, and Bernard A. Domning Sr. sold her
VanCleave Avenue properties to their sister, Alice D. Burnham and
husband, Lawrence V. Burnham. A Chancery Court order was issued in
March 1989, which adjudicated that all the real estate of Alphonsine
B. Domning be assigned to her children. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 491,
p. 574 and Jackson County, Ms. Chancery Court Cause No. P-2152, March
1989) Today, Alice Domning Burnham of Mobile still possesses the old
Ben Domning properties at 504, 506, and 508 VanCleave.
Reminiscences of Ocean Springs by Emile F. Domning
My good and faithful readers, we are most fortunate to have as a
guest columnist for the next few weeks, Emile Frederick "Rip" Domning,
a native son, now in his tenth decade. Rip Domning was born in Ocean
Springs, Mississippi, on January 20, 1907, the eldest of the four
children of B. F. Domning (1882-1915) and Alphonsine Frances Beaugez
(1882-1965). Emile married Maud Marie Louise Mugnier (1905-1998), a
native of New Orleans, but Biloxi resident on May 10, 1941, after
which date they lived in Biloxi continuously except for Emile's World
War II military service. Their only child, Daryl Paul Domning, was
born in Biloxi on March 14, 1947.

Emile F. "Rip" Domning (b. 1907)
Through his interest in Domning family lore and his father’s
adventurous life before and during WW II, Daryl P. Domning who has
resided in Silver Springs, Maryland since 1978, began to record
Emile’s "reminiscences" on audiotape commencing in 1976. His present
transcription of his father’s oral histories includes material
recorded from the years 1984, 1987, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2001 and 2002.
Thank you Daryl for your contribution to our local chronology through
this preservation effort.
Daryl P. Domning, a Biloxian, who has made significant
contributions in higher education and especially in the field of
marine vertebrate paleontology, is a graduate of Notre Dame High
School. Since 1978, after completing his formal education at Tulane
and UC Berkeley, Dr. Domning has been an instructor in human anatomy
in the medical college at Howard University in Washington D.C. He is a
world authority on fossil sea cows, and his scientific investigation
of these ancient marine vertebrate mammals has taken him to many parts
of the planet. Daryl is well-published having authored or co-authored
hundreds of papers and articles on the Order Sirenia.
School Days
When I was big enough to start school, we were living in Mobile;
they used to bring me to school and come get me in the evening. I
don't remember an awful lot about it, except that, like all kids, I
didn't like it. But then, I didn't find the situation too tough; I was
able to grasp the studies. When I started school I was about six or
seven, and I was eight when my father got killed, so I didn't get very
far. My mother decided to move back to Ocean Springs. The only thing I
remember about my school days in Mobile was my teacher's name: Miss
Young. She was just a girl teaching; it was probably the primer or
something like that, just the beginning. We had coloring books, the
usual things to start with. Of course, when we moved to Ocean Springs,
that put me in a different school and I had to start all over again.
St. Alphonsus school
My mother was very much a churchwoman - she believed in her
religion - and I hadn't been going to school long before a Catholic
school opened up, and right away she pulled us out of public school
and put us in Catholic school: now another start-over! So I wasn't
getting anywhere. I think I was in about second grade at the Catholic
school; but the congregation wasn't wealthy enough to support a
school. There were a lot of people like my mother - hardly able to pay
any tuition. Of course the school wasn't making it a big issue. My
grandmother Domning, Christina S. Domning (1848-1933), had said they
would buy my books and whatever was necessary, or pay whatever tuition
was necessary, if I went to public school, because they were not
Catholic. They were Lutheran, and my grandmother was very much against
the Catholic Church. But my mother insisted that all her children be
raised Catholic, and there was nothing my grandmother could do about
it. She even proposed that the boys be raised in one church and the
girls in the other, but my mother refused that too. So she and my
grandmother didn't get along very well. But my mother said, "They are
going to the Catholic school." So that was that; we went to Catholic
school, and I don't regret that at all. They had three sisters that
were teaching; they had a little old three-room house, and each one
had a grade. How those poor sisters got along I'll never know, because
the congregation just wasn't wealthy enough to support the school. So
we went along like that and I had probably made about fifth or sixth
grade, when the bishop or whoever was at the head of it closed the
school down - they just couldn't afford it.
So now I'm out of school again, and going back to the public
school! I was always in a brand-new school, so it never did take very
well. Then, when I got to the eighth grade, on the first go-around the
whole class, solid, failed. Now that's got to be the teacher's fault.
I never heard of a whole class failing before. There was one boy, who
we considered the teacher's pet, who did pass; the rest of the class
failed. On the second go-around, another year, I was still in the
eighth grade. I did pass; but that finished my schooling. I tried to
take a couple of correspondence courses, but I still didn't have
enough elementary education, enough foundation, to go ahead strictly
on my own, with no teachers. By then, I was still fishing with my
uncles, Henry Beaugez (1889-1963), Herbert Beaugez (1895-1954), and
Mose Beaugez (1891-1973), not making anything, and I had quit the job;
and by the time the school opened again in 1922 or 1923, I was
carrying lumber as an employee of the Missouri Valley Bridge & Iron
Company at the Rigolets east of New Orleans. We were building a
railroad bridge for the L&N and I was clearing $17.50 a week plus room
and board.
1900 public school
At the Ocean Springs public school*, we had a three-story school,
but the third story wasn't used. It had four rooms, as I remember: two
on the ground floor and two above. They were big rooms. At the time I
started there, we didn't have any fire escapes. Later on, the powers
that be said we had to have fire escapes. Actually, all the fire
escape was a big old slide inside of a tube, like you see in any
playground. They put these chutes up there, and we thought that was a
great idea: we got a chance to go down the slide from upstairs all the
way out! We used it anytime we could, until they put a door on it and
could shut the door.
We used to have regular fire drills, and they would time us to see
how long it would take us to empty a schoolroom. We were doing pretty
good; they were praising us for always doing it just in the time we
were supposed to. But one day they ran in a surprise drill on us, and
we cut the time in half! We thought it was a real fire. Instead of
being praised for it, we got chewed out about it, because we were
pushing the persons ahead of us down and out of the chute. For heat,
each one of the schoolrooms got a pot-bellied stove. During the
afternoon, they would let the fires go out, so they could set the
fires [for the next day] with paper, kindling wood, and coal. All the
janitor had to do [the next morning] was light the paper; then he'd
take off for the next room. One day, after he had started his rounds
setting the fires to warm it up for us kids, the whole building was
enveloped with smoke. They decided that the building was on fire, and
that was fine with us - we got the day off. But finally, when they
investigated, they found out that some smart aleck had reached through
the door on the stove and pushed a sack up in the stovepipe! We had a
fellow whose last name was Lemon**. He was sitting right close to the
stove, so he could do this without being observed. He had a piece of
iron rod that he could stick in the stove to get it hot, and then
touch it to the floor to gradually burn a hole through the floor, to
where you could look through the hole and see the pupils in the
schoolroom below us. Me and a couple of my friends, we decided, well,
now we got a hole in the floor; what are we going to do with it? We
decided that when we would go out for recess sometime, we'd get a
bottle and get some water and we'd smuggle the bottle in, and after
things got settled down, we'd pour it through the hole. Well, the
teacher of the class down below us sent word up to the teacher in our
room that the water that we were using in the flowerpots was leaking
onto the children downstairs. When she looked around the room, we
didn't have any flowers! So they plugged the hole up!! Our teacher's
name was Miss Mabel Tardy (1897-1956+), who became Mrs. Mabel T.
Johnson. She was sister to one of the smart alecks that I was running
around with, Don Tardy (1907-1972). We were smarter than she was at
least in our opinion. Miss Tardy might have been the teacher, but that
didn't mean nothing. We knew all the best fishing holes. We knew
everything we needed to know about hunting and things like that. Why
would we want to go to school? The black kids didn't have any school;
we thought they were luckier than we were.
Bell tower
Above the two floors that had the schoolrooms, they had a bell
tower, and we had a big old bell with a rope hanging all the way down
to the main floor to right behind the main door. You could pull that
rope and ring the bell. You could hear the bell all over town, just
about. We went up and looked the bell over one time, and we found out
that the rope was tied about halfway around the bell, so that when you
pulled it you would put the bell in motion. We found out that if you
turned the bell upside down, the rope would be hanging straight, and
you could yank on the rope all you wanted and you weren't going to do
no good. Well, that didn't work for very long; they could send
somebody up and push the bell over and get it in the right position
and ring it. So then after some thought, we found out that you could
wrap some sacks or anything around the clapper on the bell, and when
it hit the side of the bell it wouldn't ring no how.
* Mr. Domning is describing the 1900 Ocean Springs Public
School, which was situated on the southwest corner of Porter and
Dewey. The large, wooden edifice was designed by D. Anderson Dickey of
New Orleans and built by local contractor Frank De Bourg (1876-1954+).
The school bell was donated in January 1900, by Herman John Nill
(1863-1904), a native of New Orleans, who came to Ocean Springs in the
late 1880s, with his family and opened a pharmacy on the northwest
corner of Porter and
Washington. With five children to educate, Mr. Nill had a vested
interest in the quality of the local public school system.
An Ocean Springs Christmas
Ocean Springs was a very small town, and everybody knew each other.
They told me that the only reason why anybody ever bothered to read
the paper was to see who got caught! There were other things too to be
considered, like Christmas. My Domning grandparents used to make
eggnog. I don't know where they ever got that big bowl or whatever it
was, but it would hold a good bit of eggnog. Nobody in town ever got
any invitation or anything like that; but before the whole thing was
over with, just about the whole town had been there anyway: they knew
they were invited. I never did know the recipe for making this eggnog,
but it was good stuff; it was powerful. Anybody who showed up around
there usually got shook down - if they had any whiskey, it got
confiscated and it got poured into the eggnog. Usually somebody would
show up with a guitar, and they would get to drinking the eggnog and
singing songs. Most of them were German; one - I can't remember the
words to sing it - was "O Tannenbaum". Another was "Ach Du Lieber
Augustin". That would go on and on and on until we ran out of eggnog;
and everybody had all they could hold anyway before the party was
actually over.
NOLA kinfolk
We used to have a lot of kinfolks in New Orleans. Back in those
days the telephone communications between New Orleans and the
surrounding towns were not very good, and I don't know why they didn't
try writing; but along about the middle of the week, say on Wednesday,
a keg of beer would show up. So that meant get the keg of beer on
home, get it set up, start doing whatever cooking or making whatever
other arrangements were necessary for the rest of that bunch of
Germans to get over from New Orleans on the weekend. It was a good
time; everybody had a good time. When they had the keg of beer set up,
and it was ready to go, they used to have a little bucket or dish or
something that they would set on the floor under the spout. We kids -
myself, some of my first cousins - used to watch that, because when
everybody came along to get them a little beer, some would drip down
into this bowl or whatever they had down there, and when it got a
little of the drippings in there, one of us kids would snitch it. That
was our share!
The local fire company
We had a fire engine in Ocean Springs; they said they used to use
it to hurry and get down to the fire so they'd have a place to sit
down and watch the fire burn! Actually they had one, which was a
hook-and-ladder deal. They had to tell me all this because I wasn't
big enough to get in on any of this part of it; but all they had on it
was a couple of long ladders. There was no such thing as a water
system. So you'd get to a house that was burning, put the ladders up
against it, and what were you going to do now? They had a bunch of
buckets on there, but nobody had swimming pools in those days;
actually the only water supply that they had were shallow wells that
they had dug, and a few feet of water would seep into them, which was
nothing but ground water. Then you had to get buckets with ropes on
them. Then they got this pump, and could put a suction hose down in
the well and then you could pump it out. With the first pump they had,
they tell me (this is all hearsay), people would get on the side and
pump up and down and pump the water. But the hook-and-ladder got burnt
up in a fire. One of these wells that I knew of was right by the
school, and I think they had two more somewhere else in town, but that
was the only water supply for the firefighters, which was nothing. We
used to have a big old barrel - the water would run off the house and
into the barrel; and that barrel of water was in case the house caught
fire. That was what you had to put it out with; that was your fire
protection. Fortunately we never had to use it.
One Hallowe'en we went and stole the fire engine and hid it in an
old stable, and then went and rang the fire bell. That was the only
alarm they had, and that didn't tell you where the fire was. The
engine was supposed to be pulled with horses, but they didn't have any
horses either. It had big high wheels on it, so a bunch of us -
Stanley Armstrong (1907-1979), Leroy Westbrook (1907-1989), I can't
think of all of them - went and hid it and rang the fire bell. Of
course everybody took off for the fire hall to get the engine. They
got there and there wasn't any engine, so they figured somebody got
there ahead of them and took it to the fire, and they were running all
around everywhere trying to find the fire and there wasn't any fire.
Finally somebody discovered the facts, and they swore and be damned
that if they ever found out who did it they were going to hang them,
but we kept our mouths shut!
Dances
We used to go to dances at the fire hall. The fire engine was kept
in a long, narrow hall that opened on one side into the hall where
they had the dances. To get rid of our hats, we'd hang them on the
fire engine - we didn't have any place to check them, after all. Those
hats were what we called a straw katy; that was just a cheap straw hat
that everybody wore in the summer. It was only good for the
summertime. If you wore them past a certain date, anybody that came
along and knew anything about it would grab the brim and pull it down,
and you'd be looking through the top of it! That's all it was good
for, was that summer. The next summer you'd have to buy a new katy -
they cost about a dollar or fifty cents, I don't know; they were very
cheap.
One night, about the middle of a dance, somebody rang the fire
bell, and the fire engine took off with all our hats, and they were
scattered all over - we never did get our hats back. None of us had
straw katies the rest of the summer; because they would get them in,
you see, you'd buy them, and once they were sold out, they didn't get
no more; that's all there was. So we didn't have no more fun pulling
them down on people's ears. But we had a lot of fun at the dance. That
dance hall provided about the only public social gatherings we had.
Sometimes boys would come over from Biloxi to go to the dance; maybe
they had met some girls and wanted to meet them again. And then we'd
always have a fight, and we'd run them back across the bridge. Now,
when we went to Biloxi and went to a dance, we got run back across the
bridge. There was nothing but the railroad bridge; there was no
highway bridge like today.
The Big Fire
They did have one real bad fire in Ocean Springs. The wind was blowing
strong and the fire was about to burn the whole town up. They even had
to go as far away as Mobile to get engines to come in and try to help
fight the fire. They ran a train out of Mobile with some of the old
equipment on there, and from all around - Biloxi, Pascagoula, and
everywhere - they were bringing in firefighting equipment, because
that was a bad fire; it burned up a whole bunch of the town.*
Illings Theatre
Me and Don Tardy and Joe Green (who had lived in one of our houses
one time) used to knock around together, and on the corner where the
Baptist church is now, I think, Old Man Illing** had a theater - the
town picture show. He had this big building right flat on the corner,
which was like a house. But in the summertime it was too hot; people
wouldn't go sit in there and watch the pictures. So he had a lot next
door that he built a high board fence around, and called it the
Airdome. There was no roof on it, just benches in there for when the
weather was good. He had a son by the name of Bunny Illing***. Bunny
used to run the projector. Me and Don Tardy and a couple others, we
didn't have any money, and on Saturday evening when we wanted to go
watch a Western show we'd go climb up in the oak trees and look over
the top. Donald Tardy's father was the town marshal - he was the
police force. He was sort of crippled in one leg. I don't believe he
even had a pistol; if he did he wouldn't have known what to do with
it. They'd start the picture - we didn't have any money to buy a
ticket, even though I think the tickets were only about a nickel or a
dime to get in. We'd get up in the tree, and Old Man Ed Tardy
(1863-1943) - that was his name - he'd come along and he'd shine his
flashlight up in the trees and say "Tum on down! Tum on down - I tee
ya up dere" - he couldn't talk clearly - "Tum on down, I tee y'all up
dere! Dona', I tee you up dere! I'm gonna beat your ass when you get
home! I tee you up dere! I tee dat Domnin' boy too; I'm gonna tell his
momma on him!" And that's the way it went. We wouldn't come down; we'd
break little branches off and throw them at him. Because that's the
only way we ever got to see the picture show; and there was nothing
they could do about it.
But that picture show was really something. They'd get the reels in
big round boxes, and put them in the projector, and then you had to
turn the electricity on. The only electric wire they had in Ocean
Springs was downtown, on the main street; out where we lived you used
oil lamps. When you got the power on, you had to turn a crank so that
you could pull the film from one reel to the other. Every now and then
the tape would break - brrrrr! - and there'd be nothing on the screen.
Then you had to sit there until Bunny was able to bring the two ends
back together and glue them together again and go on with the picture.
And that was the theater, the only one they had in town there. And
that was usually the only way we got to see the pictures. I don't
think it ever cost over 10 or 15 cents to get in; and sometimes maybe
somebody might treat us, and we'd get to go inside on a free ticket.
Oh boy, we were in high cotton now. All the boys around Ocean Springs
wanted to sit in the very first row, right up against the screen.
You'd be better off a few rows back, but we didn't want to fool with
that; we wanted to be on the front row. After everybody got on there
and somebody else would come along wanting to get on the front row
too, there wasn't any room for him; so he'd get on there and push, and
the other fellow on the other end would get pushed off. I imagine we
were furnishing about as much amusement to the audience as anybody
else.
Airdome
There was one thing about the theater that I guess you might say
was comical. A lot of times in the summertime you'd have rain - a
sudden shower would come up. While we were sitting in this Airdome
that had no roof on it, so it would be cooler, a shower of rain would
come up. Well, everybody would start dashing to get next door into the
theater building, where it was hot. Of course, then it was up to Bunny
Illing to get the projector and get it over there too and keep it dry,
so all that took up time. That's when a lot of us kids would get in
there too. In the rush we'd slip down out of the trees and go on in
with them. Old Man Robert Rupp (1857-1930) was marshal then. He had
taken Old Man Ed Tardy's place because Old Man Ed Tardy was a little
bitty old fellow and crippled and one thing and another. Just about
the time they got everybody into the theater - some of them were
pretty wet by that time - and they were ready to crank up and show the
picture inside, the rain would quit. Now they're going to move back
outside. It took till pretty late sometimes to see all the picture!
* The Big Fire occurred on November 15, 1916. It commenced on
the southeast corner of Washington and Porter where Mohler’s Service
Station exists today and raced southward down Washington Avenue
destroying on the east side of Washington Avenue, a store, home, and
the fire hall of Ocean Springs Fire Company No.1. The west side of
Washington Avenue saw the loss of two homes and the Vahle House, a
small inn, situated on the northwest corner of Washington and Calhoun.
**Mr. Domning is referring to Eugene W. Illing (1870-1947), sometimes
called Judge Illing, who founded in 1909, Illings Theatre on the
northeast corner of Washington and Porter, which is now the site of
the First Baptist Church of Ocean Springs.***Bunny Illing was born
Alvin J. Illing (1903-1978).
One of everything
When I was a boy growing up in Ocean Springs they had one of
everything, no matter what it was. In the days that I'm talking about,
we didn't even have electricity. You had oil lamps, and you'd take
your little oil can in the daytime and go down to the grocery store.
The can had a screw top and a little spout, and when you got your
gallon of oil in there - which was about a nickel or a dime a gallon,
it was very cheap - then to keep your oil from splashing out, the
grocer would put a potato on it! That's what they did - they'd stick a
potato on the spout so the oil didn't come out. The only thing they
had more than one of around Ocean Springs was grocery stores. A. C.
Gottsche (1873-1949) had one, E. S. Davis (1859-1925) had one, and W.S.
Vancleave (1871-1938)- all of them are gone now. I think the building
of Gottsche* is still there. But then when a fellow like me got home
with my can of oil, then it was my job to see that all the lamps
around the house got filled up with oil for the night. Electricity and
all that came along later, much later. When I left Ocean Springs we
were still using oil lamps. Somehow or another those lamps were
adequate; you were used to them. That was what you had, that was what
you were used to, and that was it.
Everything around our house was woods**; there was nothing built
up. Not only did we have no electricity, we had no gas lines - we
didn't have anything like that which was good in one way - you
probably couldn't pay for it anyhow. Of course, you didn't worry about
that either, because you used a wood stove and you could go out in the
woods all around you and get all the firewood you needed. Of course it
was work, you had to work; but anybody willing to do a little work
around Ocean Springs, he could eat. You could take your net and go
fishing or catch crabs. Even at a low tide you could go out there with
a knife and open up some oysters and get fried oysters; I did it
plenty times - go catch shrimp with my little brail net, and things
like that. You could live, even though you had no money. Nobody else
had any, so you weren't out of line.
The baker
We had one baker; he used to deliver bread - that was Frank
Schmidt (1877-1954). He had a horse and wagon; he baked French bread
and you could get your bread delivered. Every now and then, whoever
was driving the horse, the horse would run away; the driver could do
nothing with him and would probably fall out of the wagon, and so
would the bread he had. So the horse would go back up to the bakery,
go back home. Benny Seymour (1907-1969) had that job for a while. The
horse ran away with him one day, and he got all skinned up and quit.
The butcher
My first job was with one of the Eglins who was running a butcher
shop. It wasn't really that they had a monopoly on that; it was just
the way it worked out - they hadn't tried to. My salary was $3 a week
- and I had a horse to ride. The horse's name was Daisy. I didn't care
much about the $3, but I sure did like having that horse to ride! She
was a blaze-faced mare; she had a white blaze down her face. But I
couldn't control old Daisy at all. I was telling Mr. Eglin about that
one time, and he told me that was because I wasn't wearing a spur.
Then he put a spur on my left foot - only one, I didn't have two - and
every time I tried to make Daisy go ahead or do something, and she
paid no attention to me, I just touched her with that spur, and that
changed everything! That went on for a while, but I wasn't making
enough money. But I liked having that horse to ride. I even learned
how to saddle her.
News boy
I got another job as paper boy, delivering The New
Orleans States Item. I used to go to the depot; the train would
bring the papers in. Somebody else had The Picayune, but
it was a morning paper.
Juvenile jaunts
On Hallowe'en, the bunch of us kids roaming around there were
going to get into some kind of devilment. Old Man Rupp was the town
marshal, and it was his job to maintain order. Don Tardy and I and all
the rest of us about that age, we knew he was watching us; so what we
would do was, part of us would go hide where he couldn't see us, and
the rest of us would sneak on off like they were going to do
something, and he would be following them and we would be doing the
devilment. He said afterwards that he had followed us around trying to
catch us, didn't have any luck and decided to go home. He said he
pulled pine logs away from his gate till he got tired, then jumped the
fence to get in!
I don't know whether we were any worse than any other bunch of
kids. Over at Vancleave's, Don Eglin (1908-1986) had a crate of
chickens - they used to sell live chickens or anything like that. He
busted one part of the crate and jammed it against the door so the
chickens couldn't get out. When Mr. Vancleave came the next morning to
open the store, he had to pull the crate away from the door to get in,
and when he did all the chickens got out! We were around there, you
know, and we even helped him catch the chickens.
Down at the drugstore, Ocean Springs had two drugstores at this
time, they used to get ice cream in metal cans, and when one was empty
they'd set it outside. Matt Huber (1892-1968) had one of the
drugstores***, and a bunch of us went around there one night and got a
bunch of those cans and brought them around to Matt. We were getting a
nickel a can for bringing them in to keep us from fooling with the
cans, and he'd bring them in, he'd put them back out there, and we'd
go get them and bring them back to him. Well, you know, we didn't have
anything to do.
We went down to Fort Bayou one night and pulled a skiff out of
there. A bunch of us carried that skiff all the way up into town and
put it in front of an automobile repair shop, a garage**** they had
there. He had a faucet outside where you could get water for your
radiator, and we put his hose in the skiff, turned the faucet on, and
let the skiff fill up with water. Well, he had a skiff there full of
water next morning. They knew what we were doing; they were
threatening us, even going to issue orders to shoot us down, but
nothing like that ever happened. And that was life in Ocean Springs.
Of course there were other things around there. We used to go out and
pick blackberries, fellows like me and Don Tardy and Sidney Woodcock
(1905-1940) - that was the three of us who were in the same class in
school. It was getting around Christmastime one time, and they wanted
some moss to decorate the school. They picked me, Don, and Sidney to
go get the moss, because we knew where the moss was! We missed pretty
near the whole day of school: that was fine with us, we didn't care.
We came back with sacks full of moss. They chewed us out about it and
wanted to know, "What do you think we're going to do? Are we going
into the mattress business or something? We just wanted a little moss
to decorate the school!" But that was a good enough excuse, you know;
it took a long time to get that much moss. We told them we had to go
way down to East Beach to get it (of course we really didn't); that's
where the most moss was.
Swimming and Old Fort Bayou
We used to go swimming in Fort Bayou because the water was deep --
around where we used to go, somebody said it was 20 feet deep, but I
don't know how deep it was; I only know I never did hit the bottom.
We'd go there because we figured the swimming was better, and the
water was deep enough that we could dive. It never meant much to me; I
never cared much about the diving; but there were some of them who
loved to dive. Out in front of Ocean Springs, it was so shallow that
we could walk around with our feet on the bottom; there was no way we
were going to dive out there.
Every now and then, we'd have one of the fellows who would be a
very poor swimmer or couldn't swim at all. We would take an empty jug,
put a stopper in it, and tie it onto him so he couldn't sink. The tide
created a current coming up the bayou and back out. Whenever he seemed
to be getting a little bit too far away from the bunch that was
swimming, we'd swim out and get him and drag him on back. But the
whole time he was in the water, he had to have that jug tied on him,
or we wouldn't let him in, because we weren't going to be responsible
for him drowning. There were times when the Fort Bayou bridge had to
be opened so a larger boat could get by. The only way the bridge
tender had of opening the bridge was a crossbar with a square fitting
that would fit over a piece in the bridge, and this would operate a
cogwheel that would open the bridge. After the boat got by, you'd walk
around with the crossbar the other way and it would close the bridge.
It never did happen very often, because there was not too much traffic
out there then. Mostly people would use skiffs or smaller boats that
could go under the bridge. So the bridge tender didn't have too much
to do. At one time the bridge tender was the grandfather***** of my
first cousin Ambrose Fayard (1906-1986). Later on he got a job on the
railroad, keeping the big water tank filled up for the engines. In
those days, every train stopped in Ocean Springs, because the engine
had to have water. In between trains, he had a two-cylinder gasoline
pump that he used to refill the tank. So it sort of went on like that;
that was the general idea of juvenile life in Biloxi and Ocean
Springs. Every now and then, even when I was living in Mobile, I used
to run down that way and the old gang would get around there and we'd
get together over at Benny Seymour's or Ambrose Fayard's house. One
night we were over at the Seymour's on Dewey Avenue- that's Aunt
Caroline's house. She was Caroline Mathilda Domning (1886-1969), my
father's sister, who married Frank Seymour (1884-1933)- and they were
having a little party down there and were going to make some eggnog.
We had some moonshine whiskey and one thing and another, but they
didn't have any eggs. So they picked on me and Benny Seymour to go
over to Mrs. Doucette's - she had chickens - and to get them a dozen
eggs. It was kind of chilly too, and we'd been drinking a little
moonshine. It was all right as long as we were out where it was nice
and cool; but as soon as we got in that house and it was hot - oh,
boy. She brought a bag of eggs out and set them on the table, but
neither of us was in any condition to pick the eggs up. And Mrs.
Doucette****** knew Mama, and she was asking me all about Mama and I
was trying to answer the questions, and Benny kept getting wobbly.
Finally, he knew I wasn't going to pick up the eggs; I was waiting on
Benny to pick them up. So he made a pass at the eggs, and instead of
catching them he knocked them off on the floor. "Oh! I'll have to get
y'all some more eggs!" Benny by that time had picked the bag up with
the busted eggs: "No, they'll be all right like they are!" And we both
took off and went on back over there, and they sort of strained the
eggshells out of them and made the eggnog anyhow.
*The former A.C. Gottsche store building, which was erected in 1913,
is extant at 809 Washington Avenue and is the headquarters for
Blossman Gas Inc.**The B.F. Domning home was built in 1913 and is
extant at present day 504 VanCleave. The land upon which Freedom
Field, which is near the old Domning home on VanCleave, was
constructed in 1949 has been described by others of this era as
densely wooded corroborating the statement by Rip Domning.***The Huber
Drug Store was situated in the Farmers and Merchants State Bank on the
southwest corner of Washington and Robinson opposite Marshall
Park.****There is a high degree of certitude that Mr. Domning is
referring to the business of Claude Engbarth (1893-1967), which opened
for business on Washington Avenue in June 1922. The old Engbarth
garage building was demolished by Blossman Inc. in January 1971.
Today, Miner's Toy Store is located here in a new building.
*****Rip Domning is referring to Leonard J. Fayard (1847-1923)
who was appointed the first bridge tender of the Old Fort
Bayou Bridge on January 1, 1902.
******Mrs. Doucette was born in New Hampshire as Clara Moore
(1866-1933).
Her husband was Fred Dusette (1866-1934), a native of New
Haven, Michigan, a small hamlet near Detroit. At Ocean Springs, the
Dusettes raised chickens and sold eggs and pecans from their farm on
the old Pabst place which is extant on the south side of Calhoun
Avenue. This cottage and land today are probably in the Estate of
Cecelia Buechler Fink (1909-1999).
Hunting
We used to like to go hunting; and one of the principal things we
would hunt was wild ducks. I always claimed that I am the only duck
hunter in the whole world who's batting a thousand: I went duck
hunting once in my life, I shot twice, I killed two ducks, and I ain't
been back! I've never done anything to upset that record.
The way it all happened was, I borrowed a double-barreled shotgun
from one of my uncles and we went duck hunting one morning at the duck
ponds on Horn Island. It was drizzling rain, sleeting - the weather
was terrible. I was out in this marsh, bogged up to my knees, with a
pair of hip boots on, wondering What in the hell am I doing out here
in this marsh, in this mud, on a morning like this, getting all wet
...? As I looked up, I saw two ducks circling around, and I figured
they were going to come light on this pond I was looking into. I
stooped down, and when I did I sat down in the mud. Sure enough, here
comes one of them in there, and I shot him; and this other duck came
following in behind him. I shot the second time and I killed the
second duck. They fell into the pond, and I took a long stick and
pulled them in. I picked them up, took my shotgun, and went out on the
beach. The rest of the gang that I had been with had gone on down
further where there were some more ponds - I could hear them shooting
down there. I was all wet and mad and one thing and another. I had a
little bottle of moonshine with me. Because it was drizzling rain and
sleeting, it was hard to get a fire started. I used most of that
bottle to get my fire started; I had picked up some driftwood on the
beach. I drank what was left in the bottle (which wasn't much); after
I got the fire going, I needed the rest to warm me up. The rest of the
gang came on back, and they had armloads of ducks - it had been a good
hunt. They looked at me and they said, "You only got two ducks?" I
said, "Yeah, and the empty shells are still in the gun." As far as I
was concerned, my duck-hunting days were over.
Fishing
I was quite young, only eight years old, when my father was killed
in a railroad accident in March 1915. We were living in Mobile,
Alabama, when the accident happened. The only thing I knew about it
was they found him on the railroad tracks near Lake Catherine,
Louisiana after his train was gone on by and he wasn't even missed
yet. They got on the line - of course there was no such thing as radio
in those days, but they had telegraph operators all the way, and they
just telegraphed ahead of the train that was on its way to New Orleans
to tell them they were short a crew member. He was a brakeman. It was
the train that was coming along behind them that actually found his
body on the track, and that began the whole thing.
As I said, we were living in Mobile at the time, but then we moved
to Ocean Springs because my father was building a home for us there;
but it wasn't quite finished. But it was finished enough to be able to
be lived in, and that's why we came back, because our income would be
considerably reduced - well, maybe I should say it was eliminated.
Because I was the oldest and I was only eight years old. I didn't try
to go out and get a job at that time, but I doubt if anybody would
have hired me anyhow. So we came back to Ocean Springs, because my
mother, Alphonsine Beaugez Domning (1882-1965), was originally from
Ocean Springs and she was moving back among family. She was the second
of the six children of Alphonse Beaugez (1860-1942) and Caroline
Seymour (1858-1933). My grandfather Beaugez was from New Orleans and
came to Ocean Springs in 1872. All that I recall of my grandmother
Beaugez is that she was very small, uneducated, and a good cook.
My mother had four brothers. Alphonse Manuel "Manny" Beaugez
(1887-1945) was a carpenter. Then there was Henry Beaugez (1889-1963),
Mose Beaugez (1891-1973), and Herbert Beaugez (1895-1954). I also had
an aunt, Rosa Mary Beaugez (1884-1937). She didn't go to school as far
as I knew; she stayed home. My grandmother, Caroline Seymour Beaugez,
was very sick - in fact, she spent most of her life that I knew
anything about in bed; she was bedridden, and Rosa took care of
Grandpa and Grandma Beaugez. They were very poor.
Henry and Mose Beaugez were the fishermen of the family. They made
practically nothing. Herbert left home and went up north for a while,
I think, to Akron, Ohio; then the Depression came along and he came on
back to Ocean Springs and moved in with my mother. Why he came all the
way from Akron, Ohio to Ocean Springs looking for a job, you figure it
out. In the meantime he had gotten married and brought his wife,
Lillian Pearson, too. The house we had on VanCleave had two bedrooms.
That meant my mother and all of her four kids had to sleep in one
bedroom, and give the other one to Herbert and Lillian. He had no job;
what was he going to do in Ocean Springs? He finally wound up going to
the Rigolets too. He worked there for a while; then the shipyard over
in Pascagoula opened up, and he was working at the shipyard when he
died.
who were fishermen, and of course when I was considered big enough
I had to go with them; whether I wanted to or not didn't make any
difference.
Shrimp seining
When I was considered big enough I had to go fishing my uncles,
Henry and Mose Beaugez,. Whether I wanted to or not didn't make any
difference. In my day we needed a four-man crew; and we could not fish
in deep water, because we had to set the net out and had to get
overboard to pull the net back in. So the way this was done, we had
two skiffs that we were towing behind the boat. One of them had this
big net, which was probably 600 feet long. We called it a seine. There
would be three men in there, and one man would be left aboard the big
boat; because then wherever we stopped, he would bring the big boat in
place with the other empty skiff behind. And then we had a man in the
bow of the skiff, one man rowing, which was usually me, and the other
fellow laying up taking it easy on top of the net; and we were rowing
along close ashore, maybe not too far out, until we began to find a
spot of shrimp. Then we would circle around with the boat and see just
how and where the spot of shrimp was and maybe how big it was.
Then we would get the skiff in position, and tell the man that was
laying up there on top of the net to get overboard with one end of the
net, on which we had a long pole which we called an arm pole. And then
he would get overboard and shove one end of this pole down in the mud
and hold it so he could start pulling the net off of the boat, while
one man was rowing the skiff and the other one still trying with the
small brail net to circle this bunch of shrimp. The seine net was
nothing in the world but a wall of webbing; one end had a long rope on
the top which had corks on it, and that kept that end afloat up on the
top of the water. The bottom end also had a line or rope on the net,
but it had lead on it so that it would sink to the bottom. Then the
man that was at the end where we started getting over-sometimes it was
me, so I'll say that it was me so I can describe it maybe a little bit
better. After I had pulled enough of the net out, to where I didn't
have to hold it anymore, then I was supposed to pull this arm pole up
and start pulling the net ashore by myself - and that was pulling a
600-foot net-of course it wasn't all out of the skiff yet. But
finally, when we had the whole net overboard, then there were two men
on the other end, and the skiff, which was now empty, which we called
the seine skiff, because that's the one that carried the big net. Then
they would start working ashore, and the man that was left on the big
boat would bring it and stop it and anchor right outside of where we
were going to be working, right close to the net. Then he would come
ashore in the other skiff to help me. That put two men on each end of
the net. We dragged the two ends together up on the shore, because we
weren't working in deep water. And then when we got that done, then we
had one man on each side of the net, which we called the lead-line
man; in other words, he had to put his foot down on that lead-line to
hold it on the bottom, and he would pull this way. The other two men
were pulling on the cork-line and bringing the net in; and that's the
way it went on until we got that whole net pulled in to where we were.
This net had built into it, in about the center of the net, what they
called a bag, which was like a big trawl or a big envelope or
something, that the shrimp would go into as you closed the net. And so
you would just keep pulling the net that way - and that was hard work;
don't let nobody hand you no stuff. The lead-line man kept the bottom
end of the net on the bottom so the shrimp couldn't go underneath; and
the corks on the top kept the net stretched like a wall while we were
bringing it in. And it came in very slowly. When it got there and we
were able, by pulling the net in, to force the shrimp into the bag,
then we would pull the shrimp and work them on down into the bag until
we had them to where we could bring the empty skiff alongside; and
then we would work the bag up and scoop the shrimp out of the bag into
the empty skiff. Of course, then our work still wasn't done because we
had to put the net back in the other boat. So you can see by that that
it took a lot longer to do that than it's taking me to tell you, and
was a lot harder work! It was because of that, and the fact that there
were so many of the smaller boats that were always working along in
shallow water, that the shrimp were either caught up or they were
moved out into the deep water where we couldn't get to them. So, over
the years, that was why they developed the trawl, which they could
pull in any kind of water - deep water, shallow water, anywhere - so
the poor shrimp didn't have much chance. I imagine that's one reason
why today there's not more shrimp than there is: because pulling the
trawl behind a boat has a tendency to close the mesh up, whereas in
the other net the mesh stayed open and the little shrimp were able to
filter out; but in this way you caught more of the little shrimp. And
that is what actually, in the final analysis, got the shrimp down to
where they are today - well, that and the fact that there are an awful
lot more boats out there. But I never did make any money fishing; and
I never did get along with my kinfolks; so the whole thing was doomed
from the start. Anyway, there were two or three things to begin with
that sort of led up to the final deal. One of them was that after the
day’s work of fishing was done, I, being the youngest and all that,
was not supposed to get tired. Everybody else was supposed to be
tired, and they were going to find them a comfortable place on the
boat, which had no sleeping arrangements at all; but it didn’t make
any difference – you’d just sit down and go to sleep wherever you
wanted. And, like I said, being the youngest I was detailed to steer
the boat, to bring the boat home. Well, I could do that all right; I
knew how to handle that part of it. But I was tired too. And one of my
uncles, who was considered the captain on there, his spot on there to
take his nap was right flat up on the bow, because that’s where you
got all the breeze. And I’m down here at the wheel steering the boat,
nodding off. Every now and then I’d wake up and bring her back on her
course, until we were coming along the beach down by what we called
Pointe-aux-Chenes, and one time when I nodded off I didn’t wake up.
The next thing I knew, the boat had swung off course and headed right
flat into the shore; and the next thing we knew was when she piled up
on the beach – WHUMP! My uncle who was sleeping up on the bow fell off
right in front of the boat; he thought he was a goner. But the boat
wasn’t going anywhere; it had plowed into the sand. About that time
everybody was awake, so we all had to get up. The boat was an old
model, and we didn’t have any clutch in it to reverse the engine; you
couldn’t do that. So all we could do was stop the engine and then get
overboard, get all around the boat, and push her off into deep water
again, then start the engine to come on home. Well, I really caught
hell about that from all concerned; and being just a kid, what could I
do about it?
More water tales
Well, that was just one of the situations that led up to my
leaving home. We used to have a bit of a job starting the boat -
nobody seemed to be taking much care of the engine anyhow, and it was
kind of hard to start until it got warmed up. Well, my job when we
came aboard was to take the anchor aboard (we usually pulled up to a
stake, dropped the anchor by the stake, and then tied the boat to the
stake so that she would be secured by both the stake and the anchor) -
my job was to get her loose from the stake, haul up the anchor and get
it aboard, and just hold on to the stake until the engine got started.
Then I was supposed to push away from the stake, and whoever was
steering the boat would go ahead. That was the way we had to do it;
and so I started out by getting my anchor aboard and holding on - I
would never clear up the lines on the deck until we really got
underway. So I was just sitting there hanging on, and they were down
there cussing and fussing with the engine, trying to get it started.
Finally it started, and they hollered "Shove off! Shove off!" So I
shoved off from the stake, and she ran maybe a hundred feet and the
engine conked out again.
So here we are drifting; now they've gone back to cranking the
engine, and I'm sitting up there on the bow. We had run away from the
stake; I didn't have [any way to stop] the boat [from] drifting. My
uncle who was supposed to be the captain on the boat came up and
looked around and jumped all over me, and said, "Can't you see this
boat's drifting ashore?" I said, "Well, what do you want me to do
about it?" He said, "Throw the anchor overboard! Anchor till we can
get the engine started!" Of course, when we went out for the day we
all had our dinners in our lunch buckets. Everybody else, including
me, had set our lunch buckets up on top of the cabin. But Mose Beaugez,
he was the captain, had set his lunch bucket right on the bow when he
came aboard; and so when he jumped all over me and cussed me out and
fussed at me about throwing the anchor, I threw the damn anchor
overboard and his bucket got tangled up in the anchor line and
overboard goes the lunch bucket! Well, he jumped on me then with both
feet. I had about all I could take then; so I just secured the anchor
line onto the boat and I jumped overboard. I knew where I was, and the
water wasn't all that deep where I was. Then he really got after me.
"Get back aboard this boat!" "I'm not coming back aboard! I quit!"
"I'll tell your mama on you!" I said, "I'll see her before you will."
So I just kept on wading ashore. He told me, "Well, if you're going up
there, tell Rudolph Ladnier (1900-1936) to come down here and take
your place!" I said, "If you want him, you go get him! I'm going
home." So I did; I just waded ashore. Mose said, "What am I gonna do
for lunch? I said, "Eat mine; it's up on the cabin where yours oughta
been." It was just about daylight then. We weren't very far offshore.
I went on home and told my mama about what happened. I got me some
breakfast and a dry pair of overalls.
A PISTOL-PACKING PRIEST
There was a three-room house that we were using for a school. Father
Irvine, a great big Irish priest who was stationed there in Ocean
Springs, taught the catechism class. He always came armed with a nice
big switch; so we learned our catechism! One day, one of the boys, Joe
Wieder (, got rather unruly, and the sisters couldn't handle him. They
went and got the priest, and the priest gave him a whipping. The
outcome of that was, the next day Father Irvine was over at the
school; and Joe Wieder's daddy showed up and told him, "Father, I
heard yesterday you gave my son a whipping. I'm down here to give you
one now!" The priest looked around at him, pulled his coat off, threw
it aside, and said, "Well, I guess we might as well get started!" But
I never heard of no fisticuffs actually ensuing. I never heard of
anybody jumping on that big Irish priest, either! He had a motorcycle;
the Church couldn't afford him an automobile. So he used to go visit
all the parishioners on his motorcycle. He was well liked. Right
across the street from the church lived some people by the name of
Rosambeau. Leo Rosambeau had a little grocery store there, and he had
some chickens that would come over into the churchyard and dig up
Father Irvine's flowers; and he didn't like that. When he'd catch one
of Leo's chickens digging up his flowers, he'd go inside and get his
pistol, and shoot him. It wasn't a very big gun he had; probably a .32
caliber, I don't remember. Well, Leo didn't like that. But when he
complained, Father Irvine told him, "Those chickens have got to come
all the way across that street and into my yard to dig my flowers.
They ain't got no business over there; you keep 'em home! Every time I
catch one, I'm gonna shoot him! And don't get in the line of fire!"
Well, I don't know how long that went on; I just heard about all this.
But that's another war Father Irvine won, because he was right. After
Father Irvine had shot about half of Leo's chickens, Leo decided he'd
better keep them home. He finally found the hole in the fence where
they were getting out, andpatched it.
A DEAD WHALE*
One time a whale, I don't remember what kind, had been found dead
somewhere south of the barrier islands out in the Gulf of Mexico, and
had been brought in to the north side of Deer Island, which was the
side facing Ocean Springs. I was living in Ocean Springs at the time.
They had a schooner tied up on each side of the whale, so you could
see him in there between the two boats. Ocean Springs wasn't that far
away; not more than a mile at the most. People were wanting to go out
and see the whale; whales were very rare there on the Gulf Coast. I
had a chance to use a small sailboat, so I could take maybe four
passengers for 25 cents apiece and sail over to where the whale was.
It beat rowing a skiff, which some people did. Twenty-five cents was a
pretty good price in those days. That went on for a while; but the
whale, being dead to start with when they found him, was beginning to
"make his presence known." They didn't know what to do about the
whale, but the local authorities told them they didn't care what they
did, they had to get him out of there - he was creating too much
"disturbance." I think one reason why the whale was left at Deer
Island so long was that there was a bit of controversy as to who owned
the whale. The ones that found the whale said it belonged to them; and
then there were others who said no, the whale belongs to us. And so it
was actually while the fussing and fighting was going on that the
whale began to "make its presence known." So they took the whale over
from Deer Island to Horn Island. From there on, the only thing I know
is that somehow or another they extracted some whale oil or something
from it - I don't know what they ever did with it. In the final
analysis, the remains of the whale - the backbone and the head part
with the big jaws - they brought them in to what we called the Naval
Reserve Park in Biloxi. In later years this park was absorbed into
Keesler Field. They had taken these whale bones and put them all in a
line - the head, vertebrae, and all in a line. According to the
information I have, over the years these bones gradually disappeared.
They say that some of those vertebrae from the whale made very good
flower pots or something to plant flowers in; and I guess because of
that those vertebrae dwindled and faded out of existence, and wound up
in somebody's flower garden - not any one particular person, but
whoever could get away with the vertebrae they wanted! They tell me I
don't know about this at first hand that also at the Naval Reserve
Park they had a couple of animals, and one of them was a bear. Somehow
or another the bear attacked the animal keeper out there and killed
him. So then they had to get rid of the bear.
Conclusion
So that gives you a general idea of growing up around there - what
growing up we did - around Ocean Springs. There were people who had
orange orchards and pecan orchards; we'd go sit down in the orchard
under the trees and eat all the oranges we wanted. Nobody said
anything, didn't bother with us. And that harbor - you know where the
harbor is in Ocean Springs? Well, in those days it was nothing but a
ditch; we used to call it the Mill Dam Bayou. We'd go down there, and
maybe somebody had a few oysters in a skiff; we'd open them up and eat
the oysters, things like that. But that's the general idea, that's the
way it was; we had to do something. What schooling there was going on
there, we weren't too interested in that.
This concludes "Reminiscences of Ocean Springs" by
Emile F. "Rip" Domning who was born here in 1907. Many thousand thanks
Rip for a great journey back to the early decades of 20th
Century Ocean Springs. Your contribution to our local history is
greatly appreciated by those who care and love our wonderful,
oak-bound village on the bay. May God bless and protect you all the
days of your life.
This week we will conclude the Domning family history.
Caroline M. Seymour Caroline Mathilda Domning (1886-1969)
was born at New Orleans on December 15, 1886. In October 1906, she
married Francis Joseph "Frank" Seymour (1884-1933), the son of
Narcisse Seymour (1848-1831) and Caroline V. Krohn (1847-1895). Their
children were: Bernard Seymour (1907-1969) married Theodora Smith
(1910-1978); Amelia Seymour (1909-1964) married Vernon R. Goodwin
(1905-1974); Oscar L. Seymour (1912-1964) married Lula E. Ramsay
(1914-1974); and Milton J. Seymour (1917-1974) married Clara G.
Roberts (1921-1972). (Lepre, 2001, pp. 102-103)
Frank J. Seymour made his livelihood on the waters of Biloxi
Bay and environs toiling with his brothers, Hugh C. Seymour
(1876-1913), John R. Seymour (1879-1938) and brother-in-law, Philip M.
Bellman (1872-1927), to catch fish and shrimp and to harvest oysters
and turtles, as part of the Narcisse Seymour & Sons organization. His
father was a pioneer of the seafood industry at Ocean Springs albeit
it was small scale compared to the industrial scale seafood processing
in Biloxi, which has been called "the Seafood Capital of the World",
but with no statistical data or other proof to substantiate the claim.
The Seymour’s oyster shop was situated at the foot of Washington
Avenue. In time Hugh C. Seymour, John R. Seymour, and Philip M.
Bellman opened their open oyster shops on the front beach at Ocean
Springs, while Frank continued to work for them as a fisherman.
Dewey Avenue
Narcisse Seymour acquired Lot 7-Block 41 from Charlotte F. Cochran in
October 1902. He sold it to his daughter-in-law, Caroline M. Domning
1887-1969), the wife of Frank J. Seymour (1884-1933), in February
1914. Their son, Oscar Seymour (1912-1964), acquired it from his
mother in 1942. After Oscar Seymour and family moved to the Veillon-Fields
Cottage at 300 Ward Avenue in 1944, he sold it back to her in January
1946. Mrs. Seymour then conveyed the home to another son, Bernard P.
Seymour (1908-1969), in August 1958. This old Seymour residence at 212
Dewey Avenue was acquired in July 1991, by Larry and Celeste Maugh.
They did an excellent job of preserving and improving this historic
property, a trend that has continued under current owner, Lynn
Linenberger.
Amelia F. Ryan
Amelia Florence Domning (1889-1954) was born at New Orleans,
Louisiana, the daughter of Emile Domning (1850-1918) and Christina
Elizabeth Seikmann (1848-1933). She married Frederick "Fred" Joseph
Ryan (1886-1969) on January 17, 1911. Before her marriage to Fred
Ryan, Amelia worked as a cook for Charles B. McVay (1845-1923), a
wealthy Pennsylvanian, who resided on Lovers Lane at present day 319
Lovers Lane, which is known today as "Conamore", with his spouse,
Annie H. McVay (1850-1920+). The McVays also had a chambermaid, Cora
J. Mon (1879-1965). (1910 Federal Census-Jackson Co. Ms. T624R744, p.
1a)
Ambassador Fred J. Ryan
Fred J. Ryan (1886-1969) was born January 26, 1886, the son of a
local fisherman, Calvin Ryan (1850-1900+), and Odile Miller
(1853-1888+), the daughter of George Barney Miller and Marie Delphine
Bosarge. His siblings were: Victor Ryan (1877-1877), John Ryan
(1881-1943), Charles Richard Ryan (1883-1939), and James Camille Ryan
(1888-1967). As a young man, Fred Ryan like many of his peers worked
on construction gangs for the L&N Railroad. He learned his trade well
and by the late 1920s, he was employed by Robert W. Hamill
(1863-1943), a Chicago entrepreneur, and Clarence W. Gormly
(1882-1957), the founder of Gulf Hills, to construct roads, bridges,
and piers in the Pointe-aux-Chenes and Belle Fontaine areas of the
county. Ryan supervised a crew of fifty Black and nine White
laborers. (The Ocean Springs Record, January 16, 1969, p. 14 and The
Gulf Coast Times, July 22, 1949, p. 5)
With his construction days in the past and after a short stint in
1934, as proprietor of the F& H Bar with Henry J. Endt (1910-1989),
Fred Ryan and spouse began a small seafood restaurant cum lounge and
dance hall, which he built adjacent to his home at present day 1314
Bowen Avenue. In April 1924, Christina S. Domning had conveyed to her
daughter, Amelia D. Ryan, "my homestead", which was the original Emile
Domning (1850-1918) place on Bowen Avenue. . (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk.
53, pp. 624-625 and The Jackson County Times, May 5, 1934)
An account and recommendation to dine at Ryan’s Seafood Restaurant
was sent by a patron of Ryan’s to Duncan Hines (1880-1959), the
Kentucky food critic and Craig Claiborne (1920-2000) of his day. The
patron’s description of Ryan’s was published by Captain Ellis Handy
(1891-1963) in his "Know Your Neighbors" series of The Gulf Coast
Times, a most valuable contribution to the preservation of our
local history.
…..two blocks from the business center of Ocean Springs and away
from the highway(Government Street at this time), is a barn like
structure called "Ryan’s". There is a parking space in the rear for
curb service or tables in side. Fancy frills are out of place at
Ryan’s. Oil cloth tables, paper napkins, and the bill of fare on the
wall. But, oh, what food and hospitality!!! In seasoning and cooking,
both Mr. and Mrs. Ryan are stars of the first magnitude. Ryan’s own
special sauce is delicious with their seafoods, steaks, and chicken.
And prices are ridiculously low. The stuffed crab specials, which
Ryan’s are noted, are 5, 10, and 15 cents according to the amount of
crab meat in the mix. Three of the five cent stuffed crabs with a cup
of coffee or bottle of beer, is far more satisfying than a dollar
dinner elsewhere. On a good day Ryan’s serve 700 to 800 crabs, their
top was 1500. (The Gulf Coast Times, July 22, 1949, p. 5)
Ryan’s highlights
In December 1937, the Mississippi College football team ate a
Ryan’s. (The Jackson County Times, December 4, 1937, p. 1)
In June 1941, Ryan’s gained national notoriety when Mr. and Mrs.
Ryan hosted William Meyers Colmer (1890-1980), Mississippi’s US
Representative and Henry A. Wallace (1888-1965), vice-president of the
United States. Their entourage included several leading Senators and
Representatives from North Carolina, Kentucky, Alabama, Rhode Island,
Virginia, South Dakota, and Wisconsin. (The Jackson County Times,
June 8, 1941, p. 4)
Remembering Ryan’s
Although Ryan’s on Bowen Avenue has been closed for over sixty
years, its memory lives on. When asked of their first remembrance of
the venerable restaurant of another era, the following responses were
related:
Lurline Schrieber Hall"Mrs. Ryan made excellent stuffed
crabs in her backyard. She had eight to ten women employed in the
operation. The stuffed crabs sold for a nickel and a Barq’s root beer
was also a nickel."
Elaine Ryan Miller-"My aunt, Elizabeth "Diddy"Ryan Hartley
(1903-1982), cooked for "Uncle Fred" in a large kitchen, which was
almost as big as the dining room. She scrubbed the wooden pine floors
with Clorox. They were so clean that one could eat off of them. She
would place newspapers on the floor to keep grease from dirtying
them."
Peggy Carver Deshommes-"Mr. Fred had the best stuffed crabs.
When mother was busy and couldn’t cook she sent us over there for two
stuffed crabs and a Barq’s root beer-all for 15 cents. Mr. Ryan would
throw in some crackers as lagniappe. Later the dance hall and
restaurant were dismantled and moved across the street and converted
into two small rentals at 1307and 1309 Bowen respectively."
Charles Fayard-"Ryan’s was a fun place! Lots of people
staying at Gulf Hills would cross Old Fort Bayou for the Ryan’s good
food at very reasonable prices as compared to Chicago and other
Midwest locals. The Ryans were very hard working people. Mr. Fred
would catch much of the seafood that he served."
Walterine "Sis" Verner Redding-"Ryan’s always smelled good.
It was the fresh food-crabs and other seafood cooking. There were lots
of good dancers who would come to Ryan’s dance hall-Edwin and Dan
Matheny, Jack and Mac Hall, Maenell Ryan Zanca, Beryl Girot Riviere,
Tony and Euta Catchot, and others. The dance hall was on the west
side. There were tables, but people primarily drank and danced here.
Of course there was a juke box and fans-no air conditioning in those
days, and you could eat in your car in the back."
Ryan children
Fred and Amelia Domning Ryan had four children: Elizabeth
Adelia Ryan Byrd (1914-1996), Joseph F. Ryan (1917-1928), Esther Ryan
Lyons Bradford (1919-1973), and Doris E. Ryan Gilmore (1926-1991).
Elizabeth A. Ryan Byrd
Elizabeth Adelia "Betty" Ryan (1914-1996) was born at Ocean
Springs on May 30, 1914. She married Curry Sam Byrd (1898-1993) who
was born on August 18, 1898, probably at Jackson, Mississippi, the son
of Billy and Melissa Byrd. Sam Byrd had been wedded prior to his
nuptials of October 4, 1947, with Betty Ryan. While Sam and Betty were
childless, he had fathered a daughter, Carolyn Byrd Geoffrey, from his
first marriage. In 1951, the Byrds were at home in Columbus, Georgia.
Prior to moving to the Coast, Sam had been employed with the Jackson
Fire Department. He worked at the Seabee Base in Gulfport as a fire
inspector. Mr. Byrd and Mrs. Byrd were Episcopalians. He expired on
December 28, 1993. Betty died on June 25, 1996. Both were interred at
Crestlawn Memorial Park Cemetery in Ocean Springs, Mississippi. (The
Ocean Springs Record, January 6, 1994, p. 6, The Sun Herald, June 26,
1996, p. C-2, and The Gulf Coast Times, April 19, 1951, p. 2)
Joseph F. Ryan Joseph Frederick Ryan (1917-1928), the sole son of
Fred and Amelia D. Ryan, was born July 23, 1917 at Ocean Springs. He
expired on June 20, 1928, from an infection caused by an oyster shell
wound on his foot. Joseph was an intelligent child and well liked by
his peers and teachers in the public school. His corporal remains were
interred in the Evergreen Cemetery on Old Fort Bayou. (The Jackson
County Times, June 23, 1928, p. 3)
Esther Ryan Lyons Bradford Esther Ryan (1919-1973) married Joseph
T. Lyons (1915-1945) of Biloxi. During WWII, Mr. Lyons was
commissioned an Army officer after completing Officers Candidate
School at Fort Sill, Oklahoma. Captain Lyons went overseas to serve
with the 3rd Army in June 1944. He was killed in action in
Germany on February 19, 1945. (The Jackson County Times, March 10,
1945, p. 1)
From this union, a son, Joseph T. "Joe" Lyons Jr. (b. 1944),
was born at Biloxi, Mississippi. Joe attended local schools and
graduated from Ocean Springs High School with the class of 1962. He
matriculated to Mississippi State University where he studied
engineering. Joe has been employed with the Savannah River Nuclear
Plant of the Atomic Energy Commission at Aiken, South Carolina. He is
the father of Mary Elaine Lyons, Torry Esther Lyons, and Elizabeth
Amelia Lyons. (Jackson County, Mississippi Chancery Court Cause No.
96-1674WM, July 1996)
Mrs. Esther Lyons later married Standish J. Bradford (1914-1992)
and they had two sons, Frederick R. Bradford and Standish J. Bradford
Jr. Presently, Fred R. Bradford owns the former Domning-Ryan property
at 1314 Bowen Avenue. Mr. and Mrs. Bradford were also interred in the
Crestlawn Memorial Park Cemetery. (JXCO, Ms. Land Deed Bk. 1015, p.
307)
Doris E. Ryan Gilmore Doris E. "Dot" Ryan (1926-1991) was born in
Ocean Springs on August 14, 1926. She married William J. Gilmore
(1924-1999), the son of A.D. Gilmore Sr. and Ada Gilmore (1895-1982).
They were the parents of two daughters: Kathleen G. Massarini and Mary
G. Cornelius. Mr. Gilmore made his livelihood as an engineer for the
Delta Steam Ship Line. He had served in the U.S. Merchant Marines
during WWII. The Gilmores resided at Sulphur, Louisiana in 1951. Dot
worshiped at St. John’s Episcopal Church and was a member of Kings
Daughters and Sons Charity. She passed on August 16, 1991 and Mr.
Gilmore expired on January 12, 1999. Their corporal remains rest in
the Crestlawn Memorial Park Cemetery at Ocean Springs. (The Ocean
Springs Record, February 4, 1999, p. 5, The Gulf Coast Times, April
19, 1951, p. 2 and The Sun Herald, August 18, 1991, p. A-2)
REFERENCES:
BooksThe History of Jackson County, Mississippi,
"Emile Domning", (Jackson County, Mississippi Genealogical
Society: Pascagoula, Missississippi-1989).
The History of Jackson County, Mississippi, "Emile
Domning and Christina Elizabeth Seikmann", (Jackson County
Genealogical Society: Pascagoula, Mississippi-1989).
Jerome Lepre, The Seymour Family, (Lepre: Biloxi,
Mississippi-2001).
Chancery CourtJackson County, Mississippi Chancery Court, Cause No.
3475, "Emile Domning, et al Guardianship", November
1915.
Jackson County, Mississippi Chancery Court Cause No. 4433, "The
Last Will and Testament of Emile Domning", April 1924.
Jackson County, Mississippi Chancery Court Cause No. P-2152,
"The Estate of Alphonsine Domning", March 1989.
JournalsThe Daily Herald, "Killed by Train at Grand Bay",
February 24, 1913, p. 1, c. 7.The Daily Herald,"Brakeman
Meets Death Beneath L&N Train", March 19, 1915.
The Daily Herald, "Immense Whale Being Divided", May
11,1923.
The Daily Herald, "Mrs. Domning Buried", August 5, 1933.
The Daily Herald, "A. Beaugez, 82 Dies at Ocean Springs",
February 13,1942.
The Daily Herald, "Mrs. Augusta Fayard Dies", December 2,
1946.
The Daily Herald, "Domning Retires After 29 Years At Post
Office", December 28, 1968.
The Gulf Coast Times, "Know Your Neighbor", July 22, 1949.
The Gulf Coast Times, "Local News", April 19, 1951.
The Jackson County Times, "E. Domning Passed Away Last
Saturday", November 9, 1918.
The Jackson County Times, "Death Of Joseph Ryan", June 23,
1928.
The Jackson County Times, "The F. & H. Bar (advertisement)",
May 5, 1934.
The Jackson County Times, "Mississippi College Football Squad
Eats at Ryans", December 4, 1937.
The Ocean Springs News, "N. Seymour Loses Suit Against
Railroad", February 20, 1909.
The Ocean Springs News, "Ocean Springs Boys Injured",
October 29, 1910.
The Ocean Springs News, "Tom Eglin Killed By Bandits Who Hold
Up Train", July 18, 1914.
The Ocean Springs News, "B.F. Domning Killed on Railroad",
March 25, 1915.
The Ocean Springs News, "Domning 7th RY. Victim From
here In Past Few Years", March 25, 1915.
The Ocean Springs News, "Woodmen Unveil Monument (for B.F.
Domning) Here", December 9, 1915.
The Ocean Springs Record, "Obituaries", January 16, 1969.The
Ocean Springs Record, "C. Sam Byrd", January 6, 1994.
The Ocean Springs Record, William J. Gilmore", February
4, 1999.The Pascagoula Democrat-Star, "Ocean Springs Locals",
April 10, 1903, p. 3,
The Progress, April 9, 1904.
The Progress, "Benny Seymour Obit", December 24, 1904, p.
4, c. 5.
The Progress, "Local News", April 30, 1904.
The Sun Herald, "Mrs. Doris Gilmore", August 18, 1991.
The Sun Herald, "Elizabeth ‘Betty’ R. Byrd", June 26, 1996.
The Sun Herald, "Maud M. Domning", May 8, 1998.
Personal Communication:
Lurline Schrieber Hall- at Letohatchie, Alabama per telephone on
January 19, 2002
Clarence Hamilton Jr.-Ocean Springs per telephone on June 25, 2003.
Emile F. Domning-at Ocean Springs on July 7, 2003.
Daryl P. Domning, Ph.D.- at Ocean Springs on July 7, 2003.
Alice Domning Burnham-Mobile, Alabama per telephone on July 8, 2003
Charles A. Fayard-Ocean Springs per telephone on August 19, 2003.
Peggy Carver Deshommes- Ocean Springs per telephone on August 19,
2003.
Walterine Verner Redding- Ocean Springs per telephone on August 19,
2003
Elaine Ryan Miller- Ocean Springs per telephone on August 19, 2003.
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